Hi Cat. Welcome to the group. It does seem to be a common experiance for Lokiens, that other people question why we follow him. You're not alone here.
Sunday 11th May, 2014 :: 04:12 pm (UTC)
I'm grateful that I'm not alone and thank you. The questioning just makes me sad anymore. It used to really enrage me, but I realize now that closed minds can't open unless they want. They always told me: 'No one ever worships Him because He's evil and you need to pick something else'... As if I could cast Him away when He chose me? We know He's not, but highly complex. Chaos and Change, intrinsically, are neutral. We can chose to take the change and monkey wrenches in a positive light or a negative light.
Totally. I remember being told by someone that I should be following Freya and not Loki.This guys reasoning, was that Freya is femanine and that Loki was "evil". I just laughed and walked off.
Tuesday 13th May, 2014 :: 09:15 pm (UTC)
'Good' and 'Evil' are far too subjective and not as black and white as people seem to believe *shaking head* I don't get how intolerant people can be and then expect me to sit politely while they insult. It's hypocritical. I know a lot of people said that I was inviting danger with a powder keg and that He'll turn on me... and I said I could say the same for who you worship. Of course, they never think of things this way. *dryly* He hasn't hurt me in 18ish years, I doubt He'll start now.
He may test us. But I think that is his way of telling us something, of teaching us what we need to know. I have only had a a Lokean for about 18 months and I've only had a couple experiances myself, so I am still learning about all of this.
Tuesday 13th May, 2014 :: 11:52 pm (UTC)
Absolutely. I've found He can be brutal in His teachings in ways that can really upset, but it's often something we desperately need to learn or understand. He only does so out of a deep love for us to be better and excel. Learning from Him is fun, I've always felt, but He will cross lines in ways that people might consider 'not-good', though.
I also don't think that it is helped by the fact that most people do not take the Edda's with a healthy pinch of salt. The stories in the Edda's were written with a Christian bias, so obviously, the writer(s) would want to have a clear distinction between good and evil, which didn't exist in the Norse tradition. Therefore, Loki has suffered, because of that.
Monday 19th May, 2014 :: 02:59 am (UTC)
Absolute truth, that statment. Christiantiy has never looked kindly on agents of Chaos... well, a lot don't even look kindly amongst themselves, sadly.
In the old Norse faith, there is no black/white, good/evil dichotomy; it's all shades of grey.
For instance, Loki isn't evil, and Odin isn't good. It's just not that simple.
It makes the gods and goddess more approachable, rather than this distant diety that you have to go through priest to talk to, all while he is sitting, judging you. I have never felt judged by any of the Norse gods or goddess'.
Hi and welcome! :-)
I'm curious, how did you first come in contact with Loki?
How long have you been a devotee?
How do you interact with Him?
Monday 12th May, 2014 :: 01:53 pm (UTC)
Thank you for the welcome! :)
*deep breath* I'm kinda truncating this... but here goes:
I came into contact in a very... physical way. I was in a very bad and lonely place. I had decided I was going to do something very stupid. I felt I had hands on my forearms (they were like steel bands) and then I felt arms around me. Crystal clear I heard in my ear: Why would you do this? You are one of mine. Of course I totally freaked out as only a 15 year old could and when I turned around... He was there. Of course I had no clue who He was as I was raised in a devout Christian home. So I hunted. Much like a game if hide and seek, and it wasn't until I came across the Lokasenna that I heard Him laugh and in my heart I knew it was Him.
Oh dear... 17 or 18 years? Somewhere around there. It's been a long time, but at the same time, I feel it's not long enough, you know?
Since I live in a devout household, I can't put an altar up like I want. (I did once when I lived with my ex and he wrecked it. Loki was not amused with the ex) and I'm not... 'typical' in my devotions and He doesn't seem to mind it. I usually use a small devotional journal to write to Him daily and often bake Him cookies (He loves it when people cook), or when I decide to be a loon and dance. I've a very small crystal bowl I put little things in for Him but it's usually late at night when I pour a libation and sit to give my thanks that I feel Him most often.
Ironically, He was very happy I posted. I was uncontrollably happy and laughing. So I think He might leave the prodding be... at least for this moment. lol
Wow! You've been with Loki quite some time!
I've been a devotee and wife of Loki for three years, now.
Can you see and hear Him?
I currently interact with Him when I meditate and in my dreams. When I meditate Loki comes to me and help me work on opening up my chakras. He's working on unblocking my energy channels.
Tuesday 13th May, 2014 :: 09:06 pm (UTC)
I mostly hear His laughter when I do something He approves and enjoys, or on very rare occasions, He hugs me. I've only heard His voice crystal clear and have seen him twice in my life besides in dreams and meditations, and that was when I was in the lowest place I thought I could go. The second one I remember so well because He was so very angry at me and I hope I never make Him that angry again.
However, the incident went to show me how long He's actually been walking beside me, His hand in mine. He's been so so loving. Oh, He can be harsh when giving lessons I need to hear, particularly when I'm being stubborn, but He's always been compassionate and gentle. He's so very deeply loving.
Has that been the experience with you as well?
I can sense His presence when I meditate, as warmth and a body tingle. Sometimes I can feel Him touching me lightly. I can sometimes smell sweet wood smoke when He's near. Other times I can smell hot cocoa or a nice after shave.
When He's working on me while I meditate, I can feel His energies pressing on my chakras. He usually works on my root chakra. Sometimes He'll work on my crown and third eye chakra, too.
A year ago I was able to hear Him when I was awake, but then I had a serious breakdown and lost the ability, or rather: I became too blocked again to hear Him.
During our first two years together, He was mostly warm and loving (I didn't have much interaction with Him last year, while I was very ill). Sometimes, though, He would be cold and angry and mostly I didn't know why. It was very confusing.
During our second year together, He stopped visiting me in dreams. I think He wanted me to learn how to interact with Him when I was awake. We were very close for the first five months, then He seemed to abandon me completely. I didn't understand why, so I sought a lot of divinations and asked other Lokeans with a "godphone" to help me interact with Him. I got different messages and some even contradicted each other. I was naive and believed that all the divinations and channellings were genuine. Now I think that some of them were not genuine. All those divinations and channellings just lead to a lot of drama, confusion and hurt.
I have told Loki I want us to do a reboot: forget everything that has happened during the last three years, and start over again. He seems to be happy about that; He has visited me a few times in dreams and has shown that He wants us to focus on the friendship aspect of our relationship.
Monday 19th May, 2014 :: 03:18 am (UTC)
They likely werent and I am sorry you had to go through that. I jokingly used to say His fire tempers us, but I don't joke about it anymore because it's truth. He, in a way, allows us to be child-like again, too.
He works with me on myself, or rather my own view of myself. I've been broken down far too many times by people in my life and I always struggle to put the pieces back together alone, or rather I always thought I was alone, if that makes sense. He had always been there with His hand on my head, but I never noticed until I had reached my breaking point.
I would be happy to talk to you on facebook, too!
Hopefully, this will work: https://www.facebook.com/cathy.markwood
True, he does test us. It's been hard for me lately. But when you get to the ligther side of the "tunnel" you see he's right. Inner growth takes some suffering. But I would never go back. Anyway I have a temper myself so....being on the other end of the stick is...useful.